he says he will fight for education but he wants to cut the education budget by 20%. that doesn't sit well for people making decisions across the country. you called it theatrical and magic math. david axlerod conceded for governor romney this was a strong performance. do you concede the same? >> i concede after practicing more than any candidate in modern presidential history he delivered on his attack lines. bill: so it was just practice brought a winner for governor romney? >> i think practicing obviously paid off for him. but at the end of the day people are looking closely at his policies and he doubled down on a number of the failed policies that have been a huge problem for that campaign. bill: stop one moment, jen. you just concede, too, romney won icon creed he had a theatrical performance. he may win some style points to for. but people looking at the choice in this election are not making a choice based on style points. they are making a choice based on substance. bill: apparently viewers -- i want you to get to these snap polls. 67% on cnn say romney won.